Posts Tagged IE

Why Yahoo! never made it too far

Disclaimer: I am not a programmer. I did a bit of programming in college and I “dabble” occasionally. I by no means consider myself hard core but the following might assume I think I am.

We all know the hype of IE9 right? It’s the latest and greatest out of the halls of Redmond. They’re suggesting for all of us to upgrade and try it out and see for ourselves it’s the best thing since sliced bread. OK, I took the plunge, I upgraded just like many others will – in order to try it out as well as try to be ahead of the IT curve, in such a case I get asked any questions.

Today, I took my browser to Yahoo! Answers because Bing told me it would have the answer to the question I was looking for. I got there and Yahoo! told me IE9 wasn’t a new enough browser and I should upgrade:


What’s even more comedical is when I click on the Upgrade Now link, in lieu of taking me anywhere it takes me to a page that says:

yahoo faux paux 2

Yep, that’s right. IE8 isn’t available for my system. So, three learning experiences we need to teach Yahoo! in order to get them up to speed:

1. When testing for browser compatibility your programmers might want to use $browser >= $version and not just hard code specific versions

2. P.S. I’m running Windows 7 which runs IE 8 fine although you don’t seem to think so

3. IE8 is not ONLY available for XP, Vista and Server 2008. It comes bundled with Windows 7 which makes it available for that OS too (see number 2 above).

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Which Browser Would You Like?

As from March 1, Microsoft has been made to show a browser ballot screen in the European Union in order to give users more “choice” over their Internet browsing experience.  The BBC have covered this and contacted an “external source” Richard Quick, who is a web designer and is criticising the ballot choice for lack of options:

Interestingly enough, I really see this as a PR stunt for Mr Quick, who’s website is linked from the BBC Article (It’s called Successful Sites) and on it says coming soon.  However, as a graphics designer, I’d like to pose a question to Mr Quick (who if he’s a designer – uses a Mac)…

Mr Quick, can you tell me which browser options you get when you use an Apple?  Answer: Safari only.  Why is that not an anti-trust lawsuit?

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Google seems on the back foot

In an attempt to try and take more of the browser war, in a potential (what I’m guessing) effort to help bolster their anticipation for their new Chrome OS (and potentially Wave – see later), Google now realises their “footprint” isn’t as large as it seems and has put on what I’d call a heavy marketing effort…Over the New Year, I visited London only to be inundated with loads of Google Chrome adverts all over the London Underground:

google long adverts LUL

They were in almost every underground station as well as in Piccadilly Circus and other various locations in London.  According to W3Schools:

W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user. The average user tends to use Internet Explorer, since it comes preinstalled with Windows. Most do not seek out other browsers.

These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.

It seems that 80% of most users today use IE in some way, shape or form.  Furthermore, what is interesting is if we look at Google’s ad:

google advert specifics

Down at the bottom it clearly reads:

A fast, new browser made for everyone

Also in their advert it says 6 tabs open, 0 crashes and 1 browser.  Well, I’m sure they’re aware, all browsers these days do tabs and rarely crash, unless you’re doing something dodgy with them.  However, when dissecting the “fast” bit, maybe Google HQ filters out Microsoft pages, as here is an interesting one to visit:

Interestingly enough, Myth 1 goes in to detail about speed and actually says that most web pages today, the speed differentiation is minimal if at all even there.  And, for those of you that say – Justin – you sing the Microsoft praises and that’s a Microsoft page, surely it’s going to have tainted facts, try visiting this independent third party review:

And, yes while his review does point out that IE was consuming more memory, his tests were with the initial launch of IE 8 on Vista.  If you look at IE 8 on Windows 7, you’ll find it utilises around 50MB, less than that of Chrome.

So, in summary?  I’m not saying Chrome isn’t going to take a chunk of the browsing market from Microsoft, but I think Google is realising with this mass marketing exercise that they aren’t the entirely big powerhouse they thought they originally were and when launching Chrome their anticipated numbers weren’t what they wanted them to be (and based on looking at this advert, it assumedably is trying to tie Chrome in with their new Wave offering as well as Chrome OS – lines 2, 4, and 5?).  Surely, watch this space, but until Chrome makes browsing *easier*, not faster (because in all actuality, it isn’t boys, is it – be honest), the mass majority of the public will continue using IE.

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Firefox Fans Skew the Statistics with Funny Math

There are various articles floating around the Internet right now about how Firefox has overtaken IE as the most popular browser in the world…  Let’s have a look at Mike Albee’s Article from the LA Business Tech Examiner

Ok, let’s take a look at the graph referenced in the article:


A quick analysis of it does show, yes Firefox 3.5 is more popular than Internet Explorer 7, however is IE 7 the only browser Microsoft has and is IE 7 representative of what you call “Internet Explorer”?  No, by no means.  IE is IE6, IE7 and IE8.  Oh one other thing before we get in to the nitty gritty of the stats. The comment about Firefox:

Each new version built upon the project’s original goals of speed, security, and reliability.

So, why is it then that they have to patch it for security holes more frequently than IE?  Here’s a good article describing this:

Report: Firefox Security Superiority a Myth

Interesting thing, it’s a linux based article too, so no bias either.

Anyways back to the numbers, I think it’s interesting how you got to the conculsion that Firefox “trounced” (article headline) IE, because if we add up everything – Stats Counter, the same people providing the aforementioned graphs give us the real result:


…and in case you think I’m making this up, here is a URL for you to visit:

Looks to me like IE still has a demanding stronghold on the market – in fact if my math proves me right – I think that 60% (about what IE has) is DOUBLE 30% (what Firefox has)….

What’s next?  Linux being more popular than Windows (95)? 😉

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In various other posts about IE and the EU and people who like to have a quick pop at Microsoft because they are the massive software company they are, I’ve thought…if it is held up (which it is bound to be) that Microsoft has to put in code to allow the removal of IE8, shouldn’t the same be done of Apple and Quicktime?  If people are making Microsoft write code around one of the things they take pride in engineering to take us forward in to Web 2.0 and 3.0 and now those against IE are asking for it to be removed, Apple, who ship their product QuickTime with every Mac should be forced to put in code to allow it to be removed, shouldn’t they?

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EU Says Mozilla can join them against Microsoft


safari512px Today the EU has told Mozilla they are allowed to join them in the anti-trust lawsuit against Microsoft packaging Internet Explorer with their Operating Systems.  I’ve blogged about this before but it brings up some interesting thoughts…If they let Mozilla onboard, will others soon follow?  Opera?  Apple..

Oh wait, there’s an interesting one.  Apple.  Should they join in the "lets all join forces against Microsoft" battle, what could come of them?  Have you ever installed OSX?  If you haven’t, it comes with something called Safari, oh yeah, that’s a browser isn’t it?  That gives them an unfair advantage doesn’t it?

Let’s see what the folks in Brussels decide to feed us for dinner this time.  Maybe Windows 7 won’t be 6 versions after all…maybe it will be 24. 

6 "standard" versions

6 with IE but without Media Player (K)

6 with Media player but without IE (N)

6 without IE and without Media Player (E)

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Browsers and Petrol

So today in the UK we’ve been told that the raw price of petrol has dropped 25% yet we’re paying more.  Recently here at 227 Volts we’ve been talking about beta browsers.  What do those two have to do with the price of fish?  Petrol makes you go and browsing is all about who can go fast, so here we go…who goes fastest?

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IE 8 Beta 2 is here…get it while its hot

Just the other day I was telling you about the “interesting” things that were going to be happening in IE 8.  Well, yesterday the IE team decided to release beta 2 to the public.  It’s here, and, well…to say the least, it’s interesting…

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Internet Explorer 8 and “In Privacy”

So the Internet Explorer team have been quite busy over at Microsoft readying IE 8 and offering some new features and options…One of the cool ones from what I can see so far is something that certain firewall programs currently offer and one you see in Outlook, but now to have it as part of IE is all the better.

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